I agree with you Zip the Cat. Had he not, you would have been in such an uproar!! Norton said he and other firefighters handled the gun, but he never pointed it at a firefighter who walked into the room. I cant imagine what it would be like to be in their shoes. To justify it with the claim that we've always allowed it, just doesn't fly. Norton — who joined the department seven years ago and had been a captain for 18 months — said that incident was not the reason he resigned. Actually, someone of the fire fighters that were laid off in Wayne County even responded to the explosion to assist. I can't imagine that anyone bad mouthing their chief would bode well for future career prospects in that field. He asked Norton for permission to bring it inside, and Norton told him he'd like to see it. There are more issue then just the issue with Mr. Norton facing this department, as a person of authority why don't you stop reading about this in the new paper and actually DO YOUR JOB! It seems like common sense would suggest that the gun is best left in car or even at home. I would have been thrown in jail too. Turnover is not uncommon even in the fire service; that they all happened at once is unfortunate. While many comments in this thread do conflict, I think we can all agree we owe them all a huge debt. Paid leave? I can hardly wrap my thoughts around someone even remotely thinking that it would be ok to do so in this day and age. You can never know what situation you will face when called to an emergency. We do not thank these men and women enough! If I did that for ANY reason,I would be fired on the spot, not paid for three weeks to determine if it is wrong. Get all the latest news, videos and ticket information as well as player profiles and information about Stamford Bridge, the home of the Blues. He asked the Chelsea Police Department to investigate, but no charges were filed. Isnt it sad that Mike's personal life choices had to be defended on a public forum.Let me be the first Mike, to thank you for your years of servive on our Fire department and as your mom commend you for putting your family first. The area they serve is not limited to just the city limits. Then our community would be in a heap of trouble. All rights reserved. robyn...never thought of it that way. @ smiles: I'm not concerned about the quality of the fire department or the police department - I'm concerned with three people leaving in the period of two months. "Clinging to the old ways" is another put down of people in small communities - as if people in places like Chelsea have been sheltered from the outside world and don't know about technology or the changing world out there. The article is written to grab your attention and possibly portray the truth in a different light for entertainment purposes. Why wasn't this investigated by the State Police? At one time, Fire Chiefs used to all be what the public thought; Leaders of Firefighters, always looking out for their crews, and doing what is in the best interest of the Department all the while standing as a symbol of good. I am stating that people not doing their job or creating a hostile work environment for their coworkers is a problem, as it would be in any profession and should be dealt with accordingly. Good job, Chelsea. (Details pre-World War II are as accurate as possible, but not comprehensive) [1] Club captains in bold (incomplete). Chelsea isnt. If a first responder can not handle a gun environment - they should consider another career. Wonder how their budget looks now. Perhaps you would like to pay more taxes so that all of our firefighters could be paid better and not have to seek employment elsewhere? Chelsea have announced their new Captain and new shirt numbers for the 2020/2021 premier league season. Leicester are struggling to get out of their final third. Chelsea (4-3-3) Ann Katrin-Berger Not ... Pickpocketed by Bonmatí in the build up to the third goal but improved significantly after the break. An accusation was made several weeks after an alleged incident. Rod...you are right. I moved out of the line of fire - because that's the normal and logical thing to do. Look into the paid on calls leaving and take a look at who is truly forcing these honest individuals out. For the latest breaking news and updates in Ann Arbor and the surrounding area, see. You are a very good fire fighter and always will be.God bless you in your new job. Norton had 7 years and Milliken had 6, isn't it even more interesting that it says Milliken left for another "job" This also just is there full time firefighters they are talking about. If you are a Firefighter, youre doing it because of the inner calling. How could this not be a crime? He wasnt fired. Aside from the fact that we are still a country of innocent until proven guilty and the fact that Mr. Norton has not been proven guilty of anything, you seem bound and determined to start a witch hunt. Apparently Lt. Matt Rose resigned rather than receive a demotion (which indicates a job performance problem of some type)... hmmm no ego there!!?? Sorry if that was not clear enough for you - the same information is also in the article. What we should be doing is supporting the remaining firefighters and letting them know this community thanks them!! Brothers! Chelsea is a growing communnity, and it is experiencing growing pains. I do not think it is fair or reasonable to speculate or read anything into that, period. Chelsea Fire Capt. If indeed there were several "witnesses" as Chief Payeur claimed, why did not one of them feel the need to report this supposed threat immediately??? Further if he was showing off the guns that means there were wittiness at the time of the alleged crime, right? 'I can only talk about Chelsea but I’ve been here seven years and there has always been the feeling to win every game and every competition. As a command officer, Sam should have known better than to have another firefighter bring a gun into the station," Payeur said. They play their home games at Kingsmeadow, formerly the home ground of the EFL League One club AFC Wimbledon. Payeur said several witnesses saw the incident. Everyone on here automatically is assuming he did. Captain Sam Norton's comments lead me to believe he is a hunter and as such he would have taken a Hunter Safety course at some point in his life. The Zombies front man talks about the part he plays in the launch of Chelsea’s home kit for 2021/22 which goes on general sale today, his favourite players down the years, and being related to a Blues title-winnner… seems like the chelsea fire dept has a few immature people in it.If I dont get my way I'm quitting.Plus its never a good idea to bring guns to work. In answer to Rod, I fervently hope you are not anyone who is in a position of authority or any position that allows you to impact decisions made for our community at large. Being in the position of authority perhaps you should look into the REAL reason all of these fire fighters are leaving CAFA. The loss of three of their fire fighters - and who know WHAT knowlede and training is gone with them is a reason for concern. "Then it was reported to me that he pointed it at another human. Maybe it was instigated with budget issues in mind since it is to my understanding Chief Payuer will not be filling these spots. If, as Chief Payeur claims, his remaining staff felt a hostile work environment, why was the incident not reported to the chief immediately. ... With the pressure on as Chelsea vie for a third … There still are people in this world who respect and honor our service members, police military and FD. I repeat there were several firefighter in this room and not one of them could prove this happened. So without an article like this, and the rumor mill of course, none of us would actually know we are missing firefighters. I n reference to AZ, they''l blame it on the gun. CAFA is a great organization, and they do a tremendous amount with limited resources. It's people like Red White and Blue that keep my faith in man kind alive! There are so many cities in Michigan that are laying off firefighters left and right; then when the city needs them (much like Wayne recently did with the furniture store explosion) and the citizens are left without adequate assistance. The allotment outcome was the resignation of a fire fighter who had been cleared by the police department. That would be awful. Loaded or unloaded, the guy walking in the door doesn’t know that, and it made the firefighter feel uncomfortable.”. I am PROUD of our firefighters. How would we feel if debates like this offended our first responders SO badly that they ALL quit to go work for a community that is more appreciative? The midfielder was surprisingly withdrawn just after the half hour mark. I even have a real vehicle and no long use the horse and buggy and I've been at least 20 miles away from Chelsea more than once! Welcome to the official Chelsea FC website. They are always friendly, always willing to educate our community (something most communities dont have the privilege of having) and respond quickly. He said a firefighter brought an unloaded rifle to the station but had it in his car. Cartilage Free Captain a Tottenham Hotspur community. It amazes me that one detail of this article seems to have escaped pretty much everyone's attention. What kind of out-of-control ego would openly and publicly question or bad mouth your chief? Not a very wise play on his part. Why would that be the case? Really - do you see how condescending that type of statement is? I can't help but wonder if maybe you have a personal agenda in all of this. Everyone of us is free to leave an employer for whatever reason we can justify to ourselves. @robyn very mature of you to forget the s in star. I can see where it would be essential to keep people with specific types of training on duty during each shift. He said he resigned over differences of opinion in how the department should be run. To that I say "grow up, your ego is out of control"! Also this happened November, long before the AZ incident, so while tragic, that has nothing to do with this incident. The incident involving the gun occurred sometime in November, but Norton didn't know the exact date. It used to be fine to make lewd comments to women and tell racial jokes too, but that doesn't make it right. I appreciate you taking the time to clear an honest man's name. Toth is only concerned with covering his own butt. Chelsea fire captain resigns after being accused of pointing gun at another firefighter. I am totally amazed at the mob mentality that has been shown by some on this issue. Clumsy rather than malicious from the Chelsea captain, though you’ve seen yellows flashed for less. You can't tell me that there would not be favoritism shown between those departments. If a firefighter wants to hunt before or after work, they should keep their weapons at home or in their care, leave work, get the rifle and go hunting. In all honesty, I had a long response written out but then I read what Red White & Blue posted and I have to say; impeccable. Lt. Mike Milliken left the department before Christmas for another job. Seems a bit too-cozy if you ask me. I think a couple of people have voiced the same concern over and over....why have 3 people left that dept in the past few months? There are 6 firefighters and 3 captains left. For some reason, City/Township/Village Managers and residents just dont seem to either care or notice when folks leave the job. The Gunners goalkeeper, who is expected to start against his former team-mates in his final game before retirement, suggested that pressure to win was greater at Stamford Bridge and that this raised the bar as a result. I heard 4 FF have left in the past 4 months....and one would rather work at a fast food restaurant than for Chief Payeur.....interesting. Further more the individual who brought the gun is STILL employeed with CAFA and did not recieve any disciplinary action. Lt. Mike Milliken left to take another job and since he wasn't facing a demotion or being investigated, according to the article, it was apparently a personal choice he made. Guns have their place and one of them is not to "stay warm" at work in preparation to go out in the cold and hunt. @Robyn where are you getting that three captains and six firefighters have left? Browse the online shop for Chelsea FC products and merchandise. It sure as heck isnt the pay. The knowledge and experience that left is irrelevant if they are not willing to perform their jobs in an appropriate manor, or have an out of control ego, or have made the decision to pursue another career. And Honestly Amazed........I am done with you. NewsNow aims to be the world's most accurate and comprehensive Chelsea FC news aggregator, bringing you the latest Blues headlines from the best Chelsea sites and other key national and international news sources. Bright new kit, famous old song and lifelong supporter – catching up with singer and Chelsea fan Colin Blunstone. 'There have been ups and downs where we’ve not been happy with results but the downs have made us stronger as a group and they are one of the reasons we’re here in this final. Lord forbid we all fall into the media trap by falling for their bait. As someone who has needed their assistance once before, am thankful to have the group of men that is employed there responding to my area. Chelsea currently occupy third place in the Premier League table with 67 points, while Liverpool are in fourth on 66 – only ahead of fifth-placed Leicester on goal difference. I think it is safe to assume that the police found that the gun was never pointed at anyone otherwise they would have charged Norton. Fire dept jobs are very hard to come by...so why would you just leave a full time fire position that you are an officer at?! We started in September and always had the final in our mind so it’s a big game for us.’. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of MLive Media Group, You are viewing this article in the AnnArbor.com archives. And just maybe the others that left, left because they did not want to participate in back room politics that destroy innocent people in order to advance their own careers. The excuse of bringing your weapon into a public building for safe keeping is unacceptable. That the resignation of three firefighters in a short period of time seems unusual for this particular department IS concerning. Chelsea goalkeeper last season: Chelsea Goalkeepers List 2019. As Mikes wife pointed out above, he left for a better paying job. Why was he not thrown in jail? He notes that he had "differences of opinion" on how things should be run. I mere;y cited how many remain. I commend him for his service and as Mary Beth said congratulate him for putting his family first. There are a lot of people posting comments here that seem to have personal agenda or vendetta against local authorities, rather than looking at things objectively! robyn...Mr. Norton claimed that he wanted the department run more like larger cities. This final is a big opportunity to keep winning trophies and it’s a trophy we won in 2013 so we know how big it is.’. Let's see... not sure of your age but you have 7 years experience on the department, 18 months of that as Captain and you know better than your fire chief? ‘Petr knows better than me because he has been in both dressing rooms,' added Azpilicueta. Rod, the Chelsea Standard also posted an artical in regards to this issue and here are two KEY sentences you should read! Every morning when they leave for work, they kiss their families goodbye, for what could potentially be the last time, since their lives truly are on the line for us. Maybe because the Chelsea Chief take care of their own at the expense on it's citizens they are PAID to protect? Anyone who feels that there life is in danger of being taken or great harm is about to be dealt upon them can,without any recourse use whatever force they deem appropriate to quell the threat,including killing them,House Bill #5143 oct 2006 I can't fathom that they have such a law on the books.! Per the article, Matt Rose was demoted and left. Players — such as Chelsea duo Chilwell andn N’Golo Kante — have left since that improbable 5,000-1 title triumph but Morgan and matchday captain … Sam Norton showed a serious lack of judgment by allowing the other officer to bring his rifle into the station. My take: If you are humble enough to know where you stand in the pecking order you say and do/take actions that are within your company's policies and your bosses directives. Be careful out there. But Chelsea isnt missing out on men. Rod, there were several people in that room looking at this weapon, truth be told not one of them saw the weapon pointed at this other fire fighter that made the alligations. Isn't the first rule of hunter safety that you do not aim or even point the gun in the general direction of other humans, nor position it in such a manner that someone could inadvertently walk into its path? I think if you want to write an artical you should find out why these three men really left. He's lucky to be alive if he brought a gun into the fire station, after this weekend anyone should be upset about a gun being pointed in their direction. The CFA is a professional organization, staffed by mostly professional firefighters. They have all kinds of young, strong, men and women that work there that will be glad to help you with it. Lisa Allmendinger is a reporter with AnnArbor.com. Chelsea will be in the market for a centre-back in the summer, with three specific names shortlisted. 13 years ago today, Wednesday, 21st May 2008, Manchester United beat Chelsea to win the club's third European Cup. Is this some strange way of trying say those that see a possible problem are not as 'thankful' as you are so they must be wrong? ‘I don’t agree that there is no pressure on us because every season we fight for every trophy. Norton said there are a number of gun collectors and hunters in the department, and firefighters would periodically bring their guns or bows to the station to show them to the others. With a smaller department - that may not be possible unless it was like larger departments that employed more people who have various types of certifications. So for the sake of all, lets simplify. ------------------------------------------------------------- Okay - from THAT sketchy information it sounds to me like people were looking at the gun (unloaded) and someone walked in to the room and the guns just so happened to be pointed in that direction. Mount is the youngest captain since John Terry, and he did Terry proud, leading by example and controlling the game to keep last year's runners-up in the competition. Chelsea squad goalkeepers – Willy Caballero. You have made a lot of good points to think on. There are some that feel that they are "entitled" (for lack of a better word) simply because they've been there a long time. The firefighters that are left are incredibly experienced and knowledgeable to assist in any situation. ‘After all the hard work of this season, we all deserve to have a good game, play with our heart and give everything. Your service and sacrifices are often taken for granted. I am sure there is good reason at this point that more cannot be said. The call to arms over the alarmingly high turnover rate? Not to mention bringing a gun into work. A fire department is not immune. Of course not!! Took the words right off my fingertips. The article states that Norton denied ever pointing the gun at anyone and that the police investigated and would not file charges. Was the catalyst for this resignation a poor choice? She can be reached at lisaallmendinger@annarbor.com. "Then it was reported to me that he pointed it at another human. Because there were no charges pressed I would have to say he was exonerated from the alleged crime. I will say - as a resident of Cjhelsea - that I am concerned about what seems to be a problem in our fire department. Was the instigator of many Chelsea moves in the final third. 25% of their entire department. This was despite being absent for part of the season because of that summer’s World Cup. Chelsea also operate a women's football team, Chelsea Football Club Women, formerly known as Chelsea Ladies. "In the past, like during hunting season, we'd have our hunting equipment with us in the back of the station to keep it safe and warm, and when our shift was over, we'd put it in our cars and leave," Norton said. He is best known for his role as pilot in command in the 2009 ditching of US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River off Manhattan after both engines were disabled by a bird strike; all 155 people aboard survived. Also with you commenting the way you are I believe is unprofessional! This would be very important as these people can make the difference between life and death for those they are called to help. Sure, maybe 20 years ago bringing your new hunting rifle into work to show your buddies wasn't a big deal, but in the real world today it is. Sorry - but I do see a problem - the fact that three people have left in 2 months is not good. I hire at my work, the first thing I do is google a name. Why was the firefighter NOT thrown into jail??? Wouldn't that indicate he should abide by a tougher standard than the "good ole boys" network, which he clearly stated he didn't like? We would never want to make a firefighter "feel uncomfortable". After facing a one year transfer ban, Frank Lampard’s team was handed a huge boost in the market. Maybe a secondary investigation should focus on the Chelsea P.D. I wonder how many of their paid on call have left! I can say that I've known a number of firefighters, both past and present, from the Chelsea station. Lt. Matt Rose left in November following a shift change that resulted in his demotion to firefighter. I've never had a hunter safety course but common sense tells me that this is not a safe way to handle a gun. The club were promoted to the Premier Division for the first time in 2005 as Southern Divisionchampions and won the Surrey County Cup nine times between 2003 and 201… So stop worrying about petty details as to why the other involved is still employed. A department that proudly and efficiently serves this community. Both Payeur and Chelsea Police Chief Ed Toth were adamant that the incident was not criminal in nature. chelsea Chelsea have the funds to sign Harry Kane . Watch Barcelona's slick third goal. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. @smiles...Next time you're wrestling dog and cat bags at the store think first. No part of this site may be reproduced without our written permission. If you know anything at all about criminal investigations you would know that a report is taken, an investigation is conducted and, provided the complainant is WILLING to PROSECUTE and the EVIDENCE supports the claim, it is then submitted to the prosecutors office for their review. The good ones on the other hand are being forced out the door to make room from someone willing to put the puppet suit on. And I guarantee since these firefighters have left, shifts have never been without and response times are still amazing. Nowadays, sadly, most are puppets for the managing Government or unable to let go of the one power position they may hold in their lives. Seems like career suicide in a field as small as fire fighting. Further more this person whom he apparently pointed a gun at never pressed charges. I sure wish someone would report the real reasons these officers have resigned. And no criminal charges were filed either so from a law breaking standpoint it couldnt have been too criminal. In the case of the CFA there are those that still cling to the "old ways". They potentially put themselves in harms way for our benefit every time they report for duty. © 2021 Chelsea FC. It was Chelsea who took the advantage in … He asked Norton for permission to bring it inside, and Norton told him he'd like to see it. We achieved the target of Champions League football by finishing third but this was only one target and the other was to win this trophy. Doubt it? Lt. All I did was tell the truth. Their league performance, however, at 82 points, was the best one since the 2009–10 season Bottom line is this: Three firefighters are gone; for their own reasons. I dont think that they are thanked enough, actually. Common sense gun owners know that you don't point a gun at ANYONE unless you have to hold them...or shoot them. Anyone who willingly puts their life on the line to potentially save someone in my family, or anyone elses family, is obviously a stand up human being. @dinky what I find more interesting is your comment and your reason for posting it. Looking at the circumstances, and the fact that the Milliken family has gone on record here, I don't see the loss of three firefighters as anything abnormal. With Norton's resignation, Derek Klink was promoted to captain, leaving the department with three captains and six firefighters. Unfortunately, it only takes a few to tarnish the entire force, especially with it's checkered past. Cesar Azpilicueta admits it will be a special feeling for him to lead Chelsea out as captain for the Europa League final, although he believes only victory in Baku will mark the hard work and progress that has been made by the Blues this season. Brandishing a weapon is a crime. Just be thankful you have first responders at your service should you need it. I know that I, for one, have immense faith in the Chief and the remaining staff. These guys are important to our community - not just as the people who are called in an emergency - but they stand for the stability of the community and the safety in this community. Norton had been on paid administrative leave since Dec. 15, amid an investigation into several incidents Chelsea Fire Chief Jim Payeur classified as “creating a hostile work environment.” He would not provide additional details about those incidents. HR situations happen every day at every employer. Why is it that you seem to want to place blame on everyone but the persons whose actions resulted in them losing their jobs? Sure, but as always it seems as if there is more behind the scenes to this than you can read in a paper. As for the other two, there were clearly personnel issues that lead to their resignations seems like pretty straight forward business to me. I am sorry but this sounds like immature story time by someone (or someones) looking to prosper from a spot vacated by others. Despite Chelsea occupying third place in the Premier League and advancing to the finals of both the FA Cup and Champions League, there has been something of a famine up front for the Blues with the club's three recognized forwards – Timo Werner, Tammy Abraham and Olivier Giroud – contributing only 35 goals in all competitions so far this campaign. Norton said he and other firefighters handled the gun, but he never pointed it at a firefighter who walked into the room. Firefighters just dont walk away from the job usually. Many larger departments also have training programs that are on going and the employees must be recertified periodically to make sure they are able to perform their duties at the highest standards. I've handled guns on more than a few occasions - picking one up and holding it, looking down the barrel/sight - if someone WALKS IN FRONT of that gun - you really can't say I was aiming at them. I guess if the firefighters dont know what they are doing and thinking and feeling, the rumor mill will huh? Chelsea goalkeepers past 2017/18 – Thibaut Courtois. ", Ultimately, Payeur said, Norton decided to resign, and “in my book, it ends there.”. Even take it out and put it in your car if you ask. Norton is the third firefighter to resign from the department in two months. I am pretty sure the article says he was accused of pointing the gun at someone. Chesley Burnett " Sully " Sullenberger III (born January 23, 1951) is an American retired Air Force fighter pilot and airline captain. They remain in active pursuit of Erling Haaland , who would command a comparable fee should he leave Borussia Dortmund this summer. The transfer window has been remarkable for the premier league side Chelsea. I want to say thank you to all the hardworking firefighters and police officers that serve our community. Chelsea goalkeepers past and present – all ex, former and past Chelsea goalkeepers! ‘It’s something very special to lead this team and club alongside amazing people around me in the dressing room and the club,’ he said. We pay enough property taxes that we should have a stable fire department and not worry about those paid to protect us. Get real..........Norton should have been put in jail and the police chief needs to be called to task for not doing so! ... Norton is the third firefighter to resign from the department in two months. Kai Havertz was the first name on the scoresheet, with his first Premier League goal since October, and he ended the wait with a finish of sheer quality, guiding the ball into the net from an angle.
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