Most importantly, I will never not appreciate (good) musical examples in debate and discussion, thank you 😁, [–]loveSloaneSeX iS a mAtrIx 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (16 children). I feel like everyone here is at least like transmed. Not always... Also: "lesbians have male spirits", I mean it doesn't get sillier than this. In the West, gay culture has traditionally tolerated & made room for males who are not masculine, but it has always centered & most idealized and celebrated men who love being men in men's bodies who love other men in men's bodies: https://youtu.be/YZ1glxX1BiQ https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k, The majority of gay men fall in the middle of the masculinity-femininity scale. It has been useful. That’s why qt wants to put so many confused kids on blockers. I don't recommend relying on the interpretations of random internet strangers when formulating your opinions on scientific research. Please treat one another with respect and understanding. ? So it is strange indeed when a person may have features of the other sex and conclude that it is evidence that they are internally the opposite sex, or experience the world subjectively as the opposite sex does. The brain is highly plastic and I doubt that there is anything that people could find that explains either homosexuality or transness with any degree of rigor. But of course not really. The first round will be only for accepctance. Women who've had breast reconstruction following mastectomies for cancer report that they experience their new surgically-constructed breasts very differently to their original, natural breasts. Or by "breathes life" are you making a reference to childbirth? Rather, it would be a thing that just happens to some people based on genetics/what features they inherited from their parents, and that if someone happened to be trans, they’d interpret as a sign they were meant to transition. As they say in the journals -- "more research needed. The thing about homosexuality is you can’t reasonably assume they’re really heterosexuals gone wrong somehow. It is expected you have at least a basic understanding of feminism. This includes insults, inquiring into a person's appearance or passability, name-calling, and accusations of bigotry/transphobia/fetishism. Certain models, like Parmed Automatic Wrist Blood … The idea that lesbians have a more "male brain" and that gay men have a more "female" brain is super homophobic. QT's Debates. Yes secondary sex characteristics can vary- that’s why they are secondary, and we define and observe by primary. No misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, transphobia, ableism, victim blaming, rape apologia, pedophiles, or Nazis/alt-righters allowed. What is a 'female brain'? But still, you're not the same sex as your mother - nor of me. I think that the “sexual inversion” that you’re talking about is something that would occur on any body by chance. Or at least evidence less than thirteen years out-of-date. . Further, you'd need to consider heterosexual brains the default and homosexual brains a deviation for this to prove 'gay men have female brains', as you're obviously only counting female heterosexual brains when you say that. I don’t really think about gender roles as being a reason for me being a woman because even if tried I to behave differently than I am naturally, it probably wouldn’t change how people see me. Including women with purely cosmetic breast implants. Your claim can only be taken seriously if you erase the sex of 51% of the human race, including the person who gestated & gave birth to you. Now it sounds like you’re saying that a trans person may cling to any feature(s) they naturally developed that is typically associated with the opposite sex as a sign or proof that they were meant to transition, even though the rest of their body and features are typical of their sex? What good does it do, for feminism, to say that masculine men and masculine women have more things in common than feminine women and masculine women? Could she make that awareness conscious and assign some cognitive meaning or emotional values to it ("This is me experiencing the outer world at average-man-height")? Please keep them respectful. I don't think this logically works, even if you leave aside the homophobic issues. Please note you have the capacity to block users. No misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, transphobia, ableism, victim blaming, rape apologia, pedophiles, or Nazis/alt-righters allowed. I promise I’m not trying to erase female experience or speak for you. The article even mentions they have no idea if these similarities are innate or not: Savic's team has yet to confirm whether the differences in brain shape are responsible for sexual orientation, or are a consequence of it. [–]loveSloaneSeX iS a mAtrIx 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun - 1 month ago (3 children). ***, But IMO, the bigger problem is with your contention that because some people have some physical characteristics more commonly associated with or frequently found in the opposite sex, but which are not at all definitive of sex - such as short stature, high voice and slight build - then of course those people view the world as the opposite sex sees it, and would reasonably. Which, as you note, can come directly from our senses and also through cognition or thought processes. It's why a person might feel embarrassed or ashamed of a feature they may have because the world chooses to point out how it's something not typical of their sex, even though the person doesn't necessarily experience it subjectively as the opposite sex. But all sense-of-self beyond environmental and autonomic input is cognitive, or cognition-mediated. I’m not trying to define womanhood to be my experiences or feelings. It also tries to explain away same-sex attraction in a heteronormative way. They come across as bog standard or "ordinary" blokes with unremarkable "presentation" & affect. “Trans Critical or Gender Critical” can be used in place of "TERF". A HORSE harness mount left its owner flabbergasted when it sold for thousands at an auction. You and others you've cited have misinterpreted the conclusions of the study, as I already explained. . Homophobes know their way with words. Threads which deteriorate to the point of flaming will be locked. They have successfully achieved to give many this impression.

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